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	<title>Life at the Feeding Edge &#187; avatar</title>
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		<title>Talking Heads, Photospeak and easter eggs</title>
		<link>http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/2009/11/20/talking-heads-photospeak-and-easter-eggs/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>epredator</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[iphone]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet<p>I am always interested in ways we are able to talk one piece of content and do something with it. I recently started using Photospeak an iphone application you can find on the app store. It is somewhat like Crazy Talk that I have used over the years for things like my Second Life Wimbledon 2008 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="tweetbutton416" class="tw_button" style=""><a href="http://twitter.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.feedingedge.co.uk%2Fblog%2F2009%2F11%2F20%2Ftalking-heads-photospeak-and-easter-eggs%2F&amp;text=Talking%20Heads%2C%20Photospeak%20and%20easter%20eggs&amp;related=&amp;lang=en&amp;count=horizontal&amp;counturl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.feedingedge.co.uk%2Fblog%2F2009%2F11%2F20%2Ftalking-heads-photospeak-and-easter-eggs%2F" class="twitter-share-button"  style="width:55px;height:22px;background:transparent url('http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/wp-content/plugins/wp-tweet-button/tweetn.png') no-repeat  0 0;text-align:left;text-indent:-9999px;display:block;">Tweet</a></div><p>I am always interested in ways we are able to talk one piece of content and do something with it. I recently started using Photospeak an iphone application you can find on the app store. It is somewhat like Crazy Talk that I have used over the years for things like my <a href="http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/07/05/fred-perry-second-life-wimbledon-video-fun/">Second Life Wimbledon 2008 video </a> and the Daz in foil (of <a href="http://pointawayfromface.com/">pointawayfromface</a>) and <a href="http://epredator.blogspot.com/search?q=crazy+talk">also these examples</a></p>
<p>Photospeak lets you take a 2d facial photo, it then sends it off to a server, does some magic and returns an instrumented and working interactive semi 3d version of you face. One that tracks movement and can also lip synch. It is always a little creepy, and very uncanny valley, in particular because of the eyes. However, when recording this video of the iphone app I happened to double tap the screen and discovered this add on to it. (it may be documented but who reads docs nowadays?) It also instantly made the face more convincing I found. Not least because I wear glasses normally.</p>
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		<title>Avatar portability &#8211; Evolver to FriendsHangout (unity3d)</title>
		<link>http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/2009/09/11/avatar-portability-evolver-to-friendshangout-unity3d/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>epredator</dc:creator>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/?p=309</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Tweet<p>I have continued to explore and be impressed by the avatar model creation site evolver.com
Having created an avatar and looked at the various ways of transporting that content to places I also tried the link to the unity3d powered Friends Hangout. I had tried this a little while ago, and it has changed drastically. There are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="tweetbutton309" class="tw_button" style=""><a href="http://twitter.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.feedingedge.co.uk%2Fblog%2F2009%2F09%2F11%2Favatar-portability-evolver-to-friendshangout-unity3d%2F&amp;text=Avatar%20portability%20%26%238211%3B%20Evolver%20to%20FriendsHangout%20%28unity3d%29&amp;related=&amp;lang=en&amp;count=horizontal&amp;counturl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.feedingedge.co.uk%2Fblog%2F2009%2F09%2F11%2Favatar-portability-evolver-to-friendshangout-unity3d%2F" class="twitter-share-button"  style="width:55px;height:22px;background:transparent url('http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/wp-content/plugins/wp-tweet-button/tweetn.png') no-repeat  0 0;text-align:left;text-indent:-9999px;display:block;">Tweet</a></div><p>I have continued to <a href="http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/2009/09/09/evolving-epredator/">explore</a> and be impressed by the avatar model creation site <a href="http://www.evolver.com">evolver.com</a><br />
Having created an avatar and looked at the various ways of transporting that content to places I also tried the link to the unity3d powered <a href="http://www.friendshangout.com">Friends Hangou</a>t. I had tried this a little while ago, and it has changed drastically. There are now multiple game rooms and types to experiment with, and yes it does really import your evolver avatar into unity3d and the engine for you. Something that I can see growing as more platforms open up.<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/epredator/3909516966/" title="friends hangout evolver avatar by epredator, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3484/3909516966_139a3cca50.jpg" width="500" height="310" alt="friends hangout evolver avatar" /></a><br />
For those of your who have basic 3d packages but not the human clip art that you need it is worth trying the Evolver test transport. They have a basic avatar (to do a try before you buy on your own) that lets you create a sample with a certain resolution, number of bones and file format which you can then import. I am still experimenting with the ideal format for me using Cheetah and Unity3d but it looks very promising. The bones work, the mesh is bound, the textures are there. It costs $39 to export your own creation but that seems well worth the price I have to say.<br />
I just have to decide if I want the more freaky avatar I created or not?<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/epredator/3909523806/" title="evolver epred by epredator, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3476/3909523806_551492f3f4_m.jpg" width="198" height="240" alt="evolver epred" /></a><br />
<a href="http://www.evolver.com" title="epredator unmasked"><img src="http://download.evolver.com/files1/product/2/1000000000/a2c584e0-8589-4662-8881-fc649866e712.gif" alt="epredator unmasked" ></a></p>
<p>This is the Friends Hangout embed. It uses the <a href="http://unity3d.com">Unity3d</a>, but now that on Mac Snow Leopard Safari Unity is currently broken, works fine in Firefox though if you want to try it.<br />
<iframe frameborder=0 scrolling=no width=728 height=540 allowTransparency="true" src="http://www.friendshangout.com/3dchatroom.php?FHID=Member-1252666600" ></iframe></p>
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		<title>Evolving epredator</title>
		<link>http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/2009/09/09/evolving-epredator/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>epredator</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet<p>I have been experimenting with many avatar creation sites recently for some projects. I have two experiments I usually try, one is the predator themed version. This usually tests the creative flexibility of a system, with a mask or mandibles messing up most systems.
The other is some green (preferably spikey) haired version thats a caricature in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="tweetbutton305" class="tw_button" style=""><a href="http://twitter.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.feedingedge.co.uk%2Fblog%2F2009%2F09%2F09%2Fevolving-epredator%2F&amp;text=Evolving%20epredator&amp;related=&amp;lang=en&amp;count=horizontal&amp;counturl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.feedingedge.co.uk%2Fblog%2F2009%2F09%2F09%2Fevolving-epredator%2F" class="twitter-share-button"  style="width:55px;height:22px;background:transparent url('http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/wp-content/plugins/wp-tweet-button/tweetn.png') no-repeat  0 0;text-align:left;text-indent:-9999px;display:block;">Tweet</a></div><p>I have been experimenting with many avatar creation sites recently for some projects. I have two experiments I usually try, one is the predator themed version. This usually tests the creative flexibility of a system, with a mask or mandibles messing up most systems.<br />
The other is some green (preferably spikey) haired version thats a caricature in some way of me.<br />
Most recently I looked at <a href="http://www.evolver.com/">Evolver.com</a> a great looking avatar creation service that is designed as a web based wizard for rich 3d content which is then exportable in a variety of formats, from animations to yes, 3d prints of the avatar.<br />
It is also interesting that there is a much more complex and richer export to 3d applications with rigged bones etc for Maya and alike. This seems a good addition though I suspect that many of the users of the high end packages are already skilled in design or have suitable models to work with. I have to try and see if it fits into my &#8220;not quite a graphic designer but with aspirations&#8221; tool chain and it would be great to grab the custom me and pop it into Unity3d.<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/epredator/3903774873/" title="evolver epredator by epredator, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2562/3903774873_e7cd64d3f5.jpg" width="310" height="500" alt="evolver epredator" /></a><br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/epredator/3904559376/" title="evolver epredator face by epredator, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2558/3904559376_8d38816263.jpg" width="413" height="500" alt="evolver epredator face" /></a><br />
This is a sample video the site makes for you with animation of the character too.<br />
<iframe width="640" height="480" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" src="http://download.evolver.com/video/?v=7783bfa9-6da9-431c-881e-bf1eb0c7af8d" ></iframe></p>
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		<title>The prize for innovation in avatar interopability goes to &#8230;.</title>
		<link>http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/2009/08/25/the-prize-for-innovation-in-avatar-interopability-goes-to/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>epredator</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet<p>Codemasters Colin McRae Dirt 2 on the Xbox 360
I was taking a look at the latest incarnation of off road console gaming. Codemasters Colin McRae Dirt 2 on the Xbox 360. The previous Dirt game was brilliant and it looks like this is going the right way too. The demo is even packaged with voice overs [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="tweetbutton280" class="tw_button" style=""><a href="http://twitter.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.feedingedge.co.uk%2Fblog%2F2009%2F08%2F25%2Fthe-prize-for-innovation-in-avatar-interopability-goes-to%2F&amp;text=The%20prize%20for%20innovation%20in%20avatar%20interopability%20goes%20to%20%26%238230%3B.&amp;related=&amp;lang=en&amp;count=horizontal&amp;counturl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.feedingedge.co.uk%2Fblog%2F2009%2F08%2F25%2Fthe-prize-for-innovation-in-avatar-interopability-goes-to%2F" class="twitter-share-button"  style="width:55px;height:22px;background:transparent url('http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/wp-content/plugins/wp-tweet-button/tweetn.png') no-repeat  0 0;text-align:left;text-indent:-9999px;display:block;">Tweet</a></div><p><a href="http://www.dirt2game.com/">Codemasters Colin McRae Dirt 2</a> on the Xbox 360<br />
I was taking a look at the latest incarnation of off road console gaming. <a href="http://www.dirt2game.com/">Codemasters Colin McRae Dirt 2</a> on the Xbox 360. The previous Dirt game was brilliant and it looks like this is going the right way too. The demo is even packaged with voice overs from Ken Block and Travis Pastrana indicating it is a demo (i.e. not just a disabled functions as with most demos).<br />
Having had a blast around an excellent simulation of a Baja track and then an even more impressive and stunning rally stage set in Morroco I was thinking about how this mirror world, and the purity of the experience as a simulation blended with fun and some interesting game related features (such as rewind when you total the car) would not be one to have any quirky avatar or non car related expressions of personality in it. <a href="http://eightbar.co.uk/2007/09/08/getting-everywhere-even-new-york/">I often use Forza 2 (soon Forza 3)</a>(as here in 2007) as an example of how expression and customization of things like cars are done in context and that interoperability is a social and branding activity more so than a technical challenge to move data from one environment to another. &#8220;We don&#8217;t want our avatar from X, wandering around in Y as it will break the atmosphere&#8221;, &#8220;yes but we can&#8221;.<br />
I happened to pop into the demo customization options and selected something that said avatar as a cockpit customization. I was amazed, amused and impressed when on the replay of the hectic drive I saw this.<br />
<a title="Dirt 2 - Embedded Avatar by epredator, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/epredator/3853860662/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3478/3853860662_fb046a40d5.jpg" alt="Dirt 2 - Embedded Avatar" width="500" height="375" /></a><br />
My personalized xbox avatar dangling from the mirror, swinging around with ragdoll physics in car. It s such a subtle little idea, yet I was surprised. There in this real yet fun off road driving simulation, where mentally I was the driver of the car in overalls and helmet, hurtling and sliding through the desert, I was able to reference back to a little bit of my more global system wide visual persona. My <a href="http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/2009/08/13/xbox360-update-bought-the-t-shirt/">predalike dreadlocked avatar</a> with his new virtual t-shirt.<br />
It did not break the spell, it fitted. The avatar was embedded in world yet not interfering with it. Well done to the Codies !</p>
<p>Whilst this feature was on the 360 I am sure there are equally interesting features on all the other versions it is out mid September (which whilst i am on the subject all the games that get release pre-xmas are always in mid September which make it mighty annoying when the predlets want to by me a birthday present for the end of August!<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002DUCNIM?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=feededge-21&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1634&amp;creative=19450&amp;creativeASIN=B002DUCNIM">Colin McRae: Dirt 2 (Xbox 360)</a><img style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.co.uk/e/ir?t=feededge-21&amp;l=as2&amp;o=2&amp;a=B002DUCNIM" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /><br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002DUCNIC?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=feededge-21&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1634&amp;creative=19450&amp;creativeASIN=B002DUCNIC">Colin McRae: Dirt 2 (PS3)</a><img style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.co.uk/e/ir?t=feededge-21&amp;l=as2&amp;o=2&amp;a=B002DUCNIC" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /><br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002DUCNIW?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=feededge-21&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1634&amp;creative=19450&amp;creativeASIN=B002DUCNIW">Colin McRae: Dirt 2 (PC DVD)</a><img style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.co.uk/e/ir?t=feededge-21&amp;l=as2&amp;o=2&amp;a=B002DUCNIW" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /><br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002DUCNJ6?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=feededge-21&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1634&amp;creative=19450&amp;creativeASIN=B002DUCNJ6">Colin McRae: Dirt 2 (Wii)</a><img style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.co.uk/e/ir?t=feededge-21&amp;l=as2&amp;o=2&amp;a=B002DUCNJ6" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /><br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002DUCNJG?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=feededge-21&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1634&amp;creative=19450&amp;creativeASIN=B002DUCNJG">Colin McRae: Dirt 2 (PSP)</a><img style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.co.uk/e/ir?t=feededge-21&amp;l=as2&amp;o=2&amp;a=B002DUCNJG" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></p>
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		<title>Avatars add up</title>
		<link>http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/2009/05/20/avatars-add-up/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 09:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>epredator</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet<p>Predlet 1.0 came home today with a username and password from school for a site called Mathletics. She was very keen to get on and have a look. She also was very keen to login herself and said the password was secret and not for me to see. (That&#8217;s a good start).</p>
<p>What I was struck with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="tweetbutton139" class="tw_button" style=""><a href="http://twitter.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.feedingedge.co.uk%2Fblog%2F2009%2F05%2F20%2Favatars-add-up%2F&amp;text=Avatars%20add%20up&amp;related=&amp;lang=en&amp;count=horizontal&amp;counturl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.feedingedge.co.uk%2Fblog%2F2009%2F05%2F20%2Favatars-add-up%2F" class="twitter-share-button"  style="width:55px;height:22px;background:transparent url('http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/wp-content/plugins/wp-tweet-button/tweetn.png') no-repeat  0 0;text-align:left;text-indent:-9999px;display:block;">Tweet</a></div><p>Predlet 1.0 came home today with a username and password from school for a site called <a href="http://www.mathletics.co.uk">Mathletics</a>. She was very keen to get on and have a look. She also was very keen to login herself and said the password was secret and not for me to see. (That&#8217;s a good start).</p>
<p>What I was struck with was how straight away the first task was customization of the character to represent you. I should not have been surprised but I was. The site is global and has elements of competition and scoreboards for completing the flash based maths games. It was very slick and very well done and she enjoyed it too. </p>
<p>During the customization I got asked &#8220;dad what colour are my eyes?&#8221; and &#8220;does this hair look like mine?&#8221;. Entering work mode for a moment I said &#8220;why do you want it to look like you?&#8221;. The reply &#8220;It is me&#8221;. So we had certainly moved from the notion of the thing online being a toy to externalize.  She was showing a need to control her own brand effectively. </p>
<p>I did point out that some of my characters online don&#8217;t look like me but are me, e.g. spikey green hair and that its ok to play with the look <img src='http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  However it is one of those stages we all have to go through. Start to be 100% accurate, then start tweaking. The difference here is that my daughter is starting this at age 5 going on 6. What will her self expression be like in the systems in 5 years time?. An interesting thought and great seeing a digital native evolve.</p>
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		<title>Latest merger news : Work and play combine</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>epredator</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet<p>Last night I had the pleasure of speaking at a Nokia connecting worlds event in Second Life. The subject for the panel of us invited to talk was that of human and non human avatars. In particular we represented people with avatars in SL or multiple looks in SL that were not regular real world mirrors.
It [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="tweetbutton75" class="tw_button" style=""><a href="http://twitter.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.feedingedge.co.uk%2Fblog%2F2009%2F04%2F08%2Flatest-merger-news-work-and-play-combine%2F&amp;text=Latest%20merger%20news%20%3A%20Work%20and%20play%20combine&amp;related=&amp;lang=en&amp;count=horizontal&amp;counturl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.feedingedge.co.uk%2Fblog%2F2009%2F04%2F08%2Flatest-merger-news-work-and-play-combine%2F" class="twitter-share-button"  style="width:55px;height:22px;background:transparent url('http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/wp-content/plugins/wp-tweet-button/tweetn.png') no-repeat  0 0;text-align:left;text-indent:-9999px;display:block;">Tweet</a></div><p>Last night I had the pleasure of speaking at a Nokia connecting worlds event in Second Life. The subject for the panel of us invited to talk was that of human and non human avatars. In particular we represented people with avatars in SL or multiple looks in SL that were not regular real world mirrors.<br />
<a title="Nokia SL by epredator, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/epredator/3421283527/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3421283527_76abfd14b7.jpg" alt="Nokia SL" width="500" height="380" /></a>It was a very interesting set of perspectives that we all brought to the event I think. The discussion of identity and the prejudice and also the power of using particular ways of interacting in virtual environments is a rich subject. It is also full of personal experience and though for each of us. </p>
<p>Faced with an avatar based experience everyone who enters has to choose something, even if the choice is to do nothing, to represent them. However as they engage and act the avatar starts to not just be a visual but a repesentative of attitude and action. </p>
<p>The panel was formed of Blue Linden, Myself, Digistar Brouwer of Nokia, <a href="http://secondtense.blogspot.com/">Hiro Pendragon</a>, Selkit Diller and Flea Bussy, moderated by Hydra Shaftoe.</p>
<p>Also for me the conversation and answering the questions ranged from my experience at a large corporation having represented both myself and their interests as epredator, flowed into how I show the fact I am clearly a science fiction fan with my AV and also how I try and act with the same strength and honour blended with the ethos of another character.</p>
<p>Clearly all that in conversation blends business and play in many complicated ways. The need for personal brand, for ego and for championing a business cause yet all being described to a group of people world wide when for me it was 8pm and I was at home having just put the predlets to bed.</p>
<p>It was captured by the newly forming <a href="http://www.treet.tv/">Treet.tv</a> (link to follow once the archive is up) </p>
<p>So clearly work and play (which can be the same thing if you enjoy the work) have already merged. Sharing personal experience that some people may use for commercial advantages, or for personal enhancement crosses the boundaries. </p>
<p>As I often say all this is about people. Thats the bottom line. People connecting and getting done what they need to do,  direct to one another with reduced overheads.<br />
<a title="Nokia SL by epredator, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/epredator/3421438975/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3392/3421438975_8daa5e4944.jpg" alt="Nokia SL" width="500" height="380" /></a>As is also customary at any online gathering there is a post event mingle, this shows the great leveler that virtual worlds are as the social construct of audience, stage, panelists just stops and intermingles as it does at any good conference event. </p>
<p>We ended up discussing WoW, Female/Male potential prejudices and sandwiches. </p>
<p>There were a few eightbars (both current and former IBMers) who came along too so it was good to see everyone again. </p>
<p>Thanks all for the discussion <del datetime="2009-04-09T19:59:17+00:00">and look out for the video when its posted to hear everyones point of view.</del><br />
The video is now ready<br />
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<p>Or a <a href="http://www.treet.tv/shows/nokia/nokia-perceptions-non-human-avatars/">direct link is here</a> (Thank Digistar <img src='http://www.feedingedge.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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